The torsional ground state for ethane, the torsional, rotational, and mixed torsional and rotational ground state of propane are computed with a version of diffusion Monte Carlo adapted to handle the geometric complexity of curved spaces such as the Ramachandra space. The quantum NVT ensemble average for the mixed torsional and rotational degrees of freedom of propane is computed, using a version of Monte Carlo path integral, also adapted to handle curved spaces. These three problems are selected to demonstrate the generality and the applicability of the approaches described. The spaces of coordinates can be best constructed from the parameters of continuous Lie groups, and alternative methods based on vector spaces, where extended Lagrangian terms would be too cumbersome to implement. We note that the geometric coupling between the torsions and the rotations of propane produces a substantial effect on the ground state energy of propane, and that the quantum effects on the energy of propane are quite large even well above room temperature. © 2014 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.